This is a wonderful thing. An interview with David Calder for his Porty-focused podcast. 

He graciously consented to interview both Ross and I. I thought that would surely be more interesting for his listeners than listening to me fetching and barking on again. 

And he edited it together so marvellously you'd have thought we were all in the same room rather than sitting in our respective houses and chatting via the medium of zoom. 

Hats off to the skills and professionalism amidst the ashes of the pandemic.